it was a success and mr. romney is trying to deny the fact that he was against it and trying to take some of the credit for it. >> the company that is doing best, ford motor company was not rescued. >> they were for the auto rescue, because they were afraid the whole supply chain would go out if the others went down. >> let me get back in here. >> we're going to have more on the economy as we move along. the roundtable stays with us for the hour. i'm about to talk to john kasich in ohio where these themes are perfectly in his wheelhouse, because it's really what's going to decide ohio. before we do that, think it would be so interesting to really understand -- we talk so much about ohio. how do you win the state? how do both campaigns win it. i want to bring chuck back in. we've got a new poll coming out of ohio, 49-49, razor tight before the final debate. take a moment here to take us through how each side thinks they win the state. >> the joke is there are five, it's five states within one state. the five o